Dina Temple-Raston
PAUL NAKASONE: Well, I have a portfolio approach to life. Right now I'm spending about half my time with the Vanderbilt Institute of National Security. I'm also on the board of directors for OpenAI. I do public speaking and I also do some consulting work for various businesses.
CH: And do you still have a relationship with the government?
PN: I don't. I'm on a cooling-off period right now and I think after 37 years that’s good.
CH: You've said you worry that the United States is falling behind in cyberspace. … Is it the sheer prevalence of attacks that makes you say that? Is it that adversaries are stepping up with nation-state hacking groups like Volt Typhoon and Salt Typhoon? What are you seeing?
PN: In the year since I've left government, I would tell you that my focus is truly on The Chinese Communist Party, the People's Republic of China. They have separated themselves from other countries in terms of their capabilities.
Two years ago, we talked about [hacking groups like] Volt Typhoon and this idea of Chinese implanting malicious code in our critical infrastructure and key resources. This past year, we discovered them in our telecommunications companies.
Recently, I talked to the general manager of the Littleton Electric Water and Power District, right outside of Boston. He's a general manager there of a town of 10,000 and they just discovered the Chinese in their critical infrastructure.
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